TSP5 – Entering the Fourth Mansion – St. Teresa of Avila, Spiritual Warfare, and the Progress of the Soul with Dan Burke – Discerning Hearts Podcasts


Entering the Fourth Mansion – St. Teresa, Spiritual Warfare, and the Progress of the Soul with Dan Burke

Dan Burke and Kris McGregor explore the journey through the fourth mansion and the challenges that arise in discerning spiritual progress. St. Teresa’s teachings caution against pride and self-deception in the spiritual life, especially as one begins to experience deeper spiritual consolations and encounters.

At the fourth mansion, the devil shifts tactics, no longer tempting the soul with obvious sins, but rather with pride and complacency. Souls at this stage might believe they are more advanced than they truly are, which can lead to a dangerous sense of superiority or false humility. The key to avoiding this trap is to assess oneself through the lens of God’s love and the example of Jesus, not by comparing oneself to others.

Even advanced souls can be tempted by subtle forms of pride: St. Teresa warns that experiences of consolation must be tested for their fruits, as true spiritual joy leads to lasting peace, while false consolations leave the soul feeling empty and unsettled. God allows minor temptations or challenges to help keep the soul awake and vigilant. The podcast concludes with the reminder that this spiritual journey is about preparing for eternal union with God, and that we should expect constant purification and humility along the way.


Discerning Hearts Discussion Questions

  1. Assessing Spiritual Progress
    How do I discern whether my spiritual experiences are leading me closer to humility and love, rather than pride and complacency?
  2. Avoiding Comparisons
    Do I evaluate my spiritual journey by comparing myself to others, or by striving to become more like Jesus?
  3. Testing Consolations
    When I experience spiritual consolations, do I test their fruits to ensure they lead to lasting peace, joy, and love?
  4. Embracing Humility
    Am I willing to accept that even in advanced stages of my spiritual life, I must remain humble and aware of my weaknesses?
  5. Responding to Temptations
    How do I respond when God allows minor temptations or trials—do I view them as opportunities to grow in vigilance and trust?
  6. Understanding the Enemy’s Subtleties
    Am I attentive to the more subtle temptations of pride and self-deception as I progress in my spiritual life?
  7. Remaining Vigilant
    Do I remain spiritually alert, recognizing that the devil prowls even more subtly as I grow in my relationship with God?
  8. Measuring Love
    How do I measure my spiritual progress—by my own standards or by the depth of love I show toward God and others?

You can find the book here.

An excerpt from the book:

Have you ever considered that the devil is active in your prayer life? In the parish church where you attend Mass? In the lives and actions of people of goodwill all around you? The saints remind us of a key aspect of living the spiritual life that we are wont to forget simply because we can’t see it and because we have been conditioned by the media and popular culture to think the devil works visibly only in “bad” people or in extraordinary ways, as in the movies. And although demons are certainly capable of extravagant or extraordinary manifestations, their ordinary work flies under our radar because it just isn’t that spectacular, though it is deadly.

In fact, subtlety, illusion, and deceit are their preferred methods of attack. An invisible battle for souls is being waged in and around us without reprieve, and we remain ignorant of it to our peril. St. Teresa of Avila, great mystic and Doctor of the Church, is best known for her writings on the way God leads souls along the path to union with Him through prayer. What many do not know about St. Teresa is that she also observed the actions of demons working with militant force to lead even good souls astray in ways that might surprise you. She shares these experiences freely in her autobiography, which she was commanded to write under obedience to her spiritual director.

Burke, Dan; Burke, Dan. The Devil in the Castle: St. Teresa of Avila, Spiritual Warfare, and the Progress of the Soul (p. 12). Sophia Institute Press. Kindle Edition.


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Dan Burke is the founder and President of the Avila Institute for Spiritual Formation, which offers graduate and personal enrichment studies in spiritual theology to priests, deacons, religious, and laity in 72 countries and prepares men for seminary in 14 dioceses.

Dan is the author and editor of more than 15 books on authentic Catholic spirituality and hosts the Divine Intimacy Radio show with his wife, Stephanie, which is broadcast weekly on EWTN Radio. Past episodes can be found, along with thousands of articles on the interior life, at SpiritualDirection.com.

In his deep commitment to the advancement of faithful Catholic spirituality, he is also the founder of Apostoli Viae, a world-wide, private association of the faithful dedicated to living and advancing the authentic spiritual patrimony of the Church.

Most importantly, Dan is a blessed husband, father of four, grandfather of one—and grateful to be Catholic.